How tall is muhammad ali
You want more casual fan? Tim Witherspoon turned pro in the 70's. Also Mike Weaver weighed as low as Tim Witherspoon was a low as Michael Dokes was as low as It is funny how you just picked random weights to try to prove your flawed point. His current height listing is also a bit generous.
And he was arguably the best heavyweight of the modern era. Then I looked at the opponent who he was facing Tommy Burns. Dips down to a solid cm before bed in his youth. And 3 inches on Patterson at least. Re Tyson. Really, it's would shoulda coulda. People talk more about and project for a career that Tyson didn't actually have, wrought with apologies as to why it didn't manifest. Why isolate and highlight adversities in Tyson's career and no one else's? For example there were other fighters doing coke in the 80s - including a number of Tyson's opponents yet Tyson received full credit for victories over those guys without any backstory as to why his opposition might've been underperformed.
There was also opposition who were simply immobilised by their own fear But then when Tyson himself wasn't quite so formidable or even lost.. Ali lost to Frazier with just 2 fights under his belt after a 3 year layoff - that could be Ali's "excuse" for the loss and even perhaps for a career that might've gone south thereafter.
Fact is, Ali posted a great performance and lost to a great fighter on the night. It's on his resume - a loss but still a big credit. Ali came back - regained the title - even after the shock loss to Norton and broken jaw to go. That's just to mention a few pit falls - there were many others - no need for excuses - the resume still speaks for itself Even before excuses were being made for Tyson there were hints earlier in his career as to the type of fighter who might prevail over him - boxer James Quick Tillis gave a preview of the prototype of the fighter and the blue print for execution.
No co-incidence that Buster Douglas a similar type fighter to Tillis brought everything to the table that could be previously calculated to overcome a fighter of Tyson's ilk.
I wouldn't go lower than 6'1. The measurement on video is hardly accurate - anyone can see that - it's for show - nothing to rest one's case on. In general comparisons Louis held up well to be between 6'1. Who did Ali fight that was remotely like Joe?
If one had to choose maybe Zora Folley as a forced choice - a very poor man's version. Sure, Ali eventually put veteran Folley out in a peculiar KO - and Folley was known for a less than even temperate - but on the way there, Zora simply plodding forward still caught the circling Ali cold with a number of stiff single straight shots - and Ali did acknowledge the difficulties that Folley presented saying his own speed ultimately made the difference.
Louis moved better than that punched a lot harder and faster than that and in perfect combination. Wasn't that the guy who was supposed to viciously KO Douglas and Holyfield also among others Boy did the pundits get that wrong. Throw in some skill, a decent punch, express offense and an opponent that didn't soil himself before opening bell or fold like a cheap tent under first duress - and Tyson was not nearly the destructive force he was forecast to be.
Even when the evidence is in some myths are hard to let go of I suppose Not sure why you think he was nearly 6'2. He wasn't. Luis would have never kept up with ALi. Ali may not have knocked him out, but a Version of Ali would have beaten Joe on points. Joe never faced a fighter like Ali. Joe also liked to stay in one spot, was not a mover. Ali would have circled him easy.
I love Joe, great american hero, but Ali would have beaten him on points and a Guy like Tyson would have obliterated Joe with a viscous KO. He could be beaten here and there but the thinking is that in a round robin of all time greats Ali would beat more fighters than anyone else.
Ali used to talk Joe Louis down - too small, too slow, too immobile - unfortunately a lot of pundits didn't think for themselves and took Ali's lead in their thinking - concluding that Ali beats Joe Louis every time out.
IMO Ali's express efforts to talk Louis down spoke volumes about how he really felt about the difficulties Joe would present. Personally I think Louis would've given Ali a lot more trouble than he is credited for - and that's not precluding Joe in fact winning. Joe wasn't so much smaller than Ali - Joe was not slow - at peak his hands were lightning - Joe's foot work was pretty good - he was simply economical to a fault - not extravagant like Ali. Joe stood close to 6'2" - probably 6'1.
Ali would taste some serious leather at least at some point As to Rocky Archie Moore was listed as 5'11" and Rocky only looked a smidge shorter - of course that's subject to Moore's height being correct. In a spoof charity boxing match Rocky appeared at least equal to 5' Anyway, judge for yourselves - Dean Martin is in the clip also but Old Dino wore lifts, didn't he?
I mean dont get me wrong he was a very good boxer but not "the greatest of all time" Rob could you add Rocky? Given his stocky physique he couldn't have been that tall as would have weighed more than he did. I'd say 5'9" is a decent guess as suggested. A very tough man though who could wreak you with one punch. When Bugner fought Ali, Joe was clearly the taller man by at least an inch possibly more.
They had two fights the first of which was pretty exciting, the second perhaps a bit disappointing. Look at him in pics with 6'0. I love Marciano but I'm not going to lie to prop up his height. I'm familiar with Dundee saying Ali was 6'4'' on some occasions and other times saying Ali was 6'2''. It's a bit strange. I think we should discount the older Ali affected by ill health when guessing his height. I'd lean towards 6'2'' plus rather than 6'4'' and Ali himself gave the former height on the David Frost show.
Jim Brown who was 6'2'' and knew Ali well said this was Ali's height. I recall an interview with Dundee in which Angelo corrects the interviewer who commented on how tall Ali was, Dundee says something along the lines of Ali wasn't actually that tall at about 6'2'' but he carried himself in a way that gave the impression of being a bigger man than he was in reality.
I love when people embellish the heights of athletes. Dundee also said Ali was 6'2". Dundee said a lot of things that weren't exactly true - as a savvy trainer he simply bent the facts in favour of either himself or his fighter - so it's kinda hard to quote Dundee's words as evidence. I recalled reading years back that 18 yo Ali was listed at 6'1.
Interesting to note as per that site 19 yo Foreman is listed at 6'3. IMO 6'2. At 22 yo Ali was listed at 6'2. It seems 6'3" was a round up that took hold shortly after that. One common comparison point was to Joe Louis - who was listed variously at 6'1", 6'1. IMO Louis was about 6'1. Angelo Dundee once said he was 6' 4 in And Actually Ali's Opponents in the 70's would be really small nowadays.
You can throw all the insults you want, but the internet exists and people who use it can easily render you whatever insult comes to their mind. Those people you listed that Ali fought in the 70's Again would be small nowadays. Your direct quote below " I also can name 50 heavyweight contenders in just the 70's alone who were between 6'3 and 6'6.
He said about his height. He signed it Cassius Clay,kinda a no-no for Muslims. If you ever meet the famous, always bring a super-cool item to get signed not some common 8x YET he still asked the question. Therein lies the contradiction and hypocrisy. If one concretely feels GF is 6'3" flat whilst perceiving GF as taller than O'Brien then they would conclude O'Brien to be less than 6'3" or put GF's perceived advantage down to angles or footwear - they certainly don't ask if GF could be rounded up to 6'3.
I'll also repeat that the custom angle O'Brien is usually filmed greeting his guests does disadvantage O'Brien a bit and accounting for same I actually see them as even - and you know I have O'Brien pretty much as you do - at about 6'3. He was simply saying that he thought in that particular video that he may have looked that.
The angles in later shots aren't so good nor is Ali's posture vs Eastwood's. Problem is later in the interview Ali himself said that Clint was taller - which we presume Ali perceived upon meeting Clint unless Ali was deferring to Clint's popularly listed and inflated height of 6'4".
Sachs - You're problem is that I've addressed all points including those in which you falsely stated that GF was never listed at 6'4" or over 6'3" in first career - you also falsely stated that LH was never listed at 6'4". You lie. You lack any credibility. You mindlessly link one height listing after another without due qualification and ignore any other listings. I could rigidly maintain that Ali was no less than 6'3" - you know there are numerous links to support this - virtually a uniform listing - so therefore it must be true - seriously, get a clue.
The absolute screamer is you asked a credible poster Canson if he might entertain an upgrade for GF to 6'3. Too funny. You also stated that everyone here knows that GF is 6'3" - the average guess here over 39 votes not incl.
I actually post to other height threads and can actually make my OWN calls on other heights including that of Conan O'Brien - who I credit at a well reasoned 6'4. Believe me other contributors KNOW who to ignore if they so choose and need no instruction on same. I don't need to ignore you - you're easy to disprove - but you do need to ignore me because you obviously can't handle that. Clint is not the one on the right, but the one in front of him, the last person Ali cumpliment before sit down.
Ali must have been between 6ft 3 and 6ft 2,5 tall. How he will only use points that benefit him? I put up numerous links that stated Foreman and Larry Holmes were 6'3 in their primes. You put up pictures and links to prove Foreman and Holmes are 6'3. Why bother even typing to him? What will it solve?
Some people enjoy trying to prove their point but there is no proving your point with people like him. Just ignore the kid. Holmes and Foreman do appear more or less equal in some shots but Foreman appears to have dropped more height than Larry over time.
If someone is an actual 6'3" but claims 6'4" then that is a blatant exaggeration. Being 6'3. Holmes and Foreman were listed at times at both 6'4" and 6'3.
I think the former height was a round up and the latter height more accurate for both. It was unlikely that so many fighters of the 70s were bang on 6'3" as listed.
As to people judging someone to be their own height - is not possible to err in judgement when only. I've seen plenty of people look face to face and one claim they are the same height when from my perspective the claimant is actually dropping as much as. McMurphy - that pic you linked I have seen. It's as close as I've seen Ali to Holmes height.
Generally Ali looked a bit shorter than that as compared to Holmes. Don King is about 49 in that shot - a mug shot in the early to mid s listed King's height as 6'2" easy to find pic. Without height loss for King I think you could argue a solid 6'3" for Ali based on that pic - However,IMO, that pic is somehow skewed, having Ali appear a bit taller than his actual 6'2.
I found a few pictures where Larry is hugging a slouching Foreman. The picture that Rob had with Larry Holmes is from some years back so Larry could of lost height since then as well. Smaller head too. I got Ali at cm and Holmes at , just like this site says.
Sachs, I'll throw you a bone - 70s HW Jeff Candy Slim Merritt listed 6'5" and actually looked it - now if you behave Harry another one might come your way. He was 6'3" if that. Use the eyes - Ali is in no way dropping He was the same height as Holmes in his prime. Both were listed as 6ft1 and 6ft0. Which mark you believe was closer?
Don't think Sonny was far off his billed height, though I've not looked much at Liston or Dempsey so don't have as much knowledge. Norton and Ali weighed in on the Johnny Carson show before their 2nd fight - unfortunately the video was pulled from YouTube some time back.
Williams was listed at 6'2" but sometimes credited as 6'3". Ali himself described Williams as tall so I'm thinking without heels Williams was close to if not equal to Ali - prob more in the 6'2. Steve Allen was listed as 6'3" and clearly had the edge on 21 yo Ali.
Now if Allen was an exact 6'3" I can see an argument for Cassius to be only 6'2". There are only a few sources for Allen's height and I'm not going to inflate Allen for the sake of Ali - it's just that there are comparisons with other people that tell me Ali was at least 6'2. Ali on Steve Allen show - Click Here. Ali on the other hand always wore clasic dress shoes when in public.
I can't link the photos from the site, but there are stills from the Ali - Norton weigh in where both wore sandals and they are clearly the exact same height. Foreman edged Ali and Norton by a bit, like half an inch. Strong 6 foot 3. Ali and Norton have donned the trunks but kept their street wear shoes on - unless an illusory effect has been created by a shadow, check the heel on Norton's shoes!
Ali's heel appears standard. Perhaps this is the secret behind Norton's advantage over Ali we see in some photos outside the ring. Click Here Also here is a clip for the signing of the Foreman-Norton fight and toward the end of the clip you'll see Norton appears impossibly taller than Foreman - again, likely some decent heel being worn.
Click Here Finally, I read Norton was measured at 6'2. At any rate, Norton joined in '63 and was likely 19 but possibly 20 yo so further growth of at least. Stupid is as stupid writes. Obviously you didn't have the capacity to respond to a previous post specifically addressed to YOU - a post which unequivocally tore you down - it screamed for a reply but I guess it had you Gumped. So what was your next best option?
Move on to try and troll the next poster. Bad move. I know my subject while you obviously don't. These are just a few examples of the heights I referenced being quoted or listed. There are others examples - anyone who truly has knowledge of the sport would know them. Louis v Sharkey Louis height 6'1. Link - Click Here. That is just a lie Foreman told in his comeback. Give me a link that has a prime Foreman being 6'4. In his "prime" Foreman was always listed at 6'3.
Ron Lyle was always listed at 6'3, Holmes was always listed at 6'3. Joe Louis was always listed at 6'1. IT is funny when people like you just lie to prove your point with absolutely no proof to what you are saying. Foreman, Holmes and Lyle all at 6'3. Foreman was described as 6'4" at various times in his first career NOT just his second coming.
Holmes too. Imo 6'4" was simply a round up from mid inch for both men. The talk of Ali being 6'4" and still growing was simply a Dundee concoction leading into the Terrell fight to negate the height pull. Terrell was Imo Joe Louis was closer to 6'2" if not right on that mark.
IMO, there are a number of comparative visual references to support same - not the least being referee Joe's clear height advantage over 6 ft Quarry and 5'11" Frazier II difference in footwear factored. Joe approaches 6'3. Click Here 62 yo Louis looks to be holding his peak height very well but could guess he'd a lot a tad.
You are picking a few examples. Creatine and all these supplements. No way are heavyweights bigger and taller in the s. You gave a few examples of heavyweights.
But that does not mean they are not inshape or naturally bigger. Tashian Dong is a heavyweight who is billed 7 foot and pounds. Look at Valev. The past had never had as many giant heavyweights on top. Smaller guys often held belts. Did you see when Fury fought Wlad what shape he came in. He lost so much fat. Muhammad Ali later in his career used to carry flab in fights. So did Foreman when he was older. How many heavyweights in the s were as fit,big and muscular as Joshua,Wladimir,Vitali?
Remember not one. All the traits combined? Wlad being smaller as a AM has no relevance to his pro career. Wladimir for the most part has been in the mid s range anyway. Your cherry picking. David Haye is a rare case you got. You will pick the heaviest Deontay Wilder weighed and say that is his prime weight. Most of Wilder's career he weighed under Hell the last fighter against Ortiz he weighed Lennox Lewis weighed when he was in his 20's. He even weighed as low as as a pro before he bulked up.
Wlamidir weighed as a amateur and when he turned pro. There are various heavyweights now who weigh at low as Be it Amir Mansour or David Haye. But you will ignore them. There were heavyweights back then like Humphrey McBride who was 6'4 pounds and Buster Mathis Sr who was 6'3 and pounds. But the prove your point you will ignore that and just list what benefits your point. As I said George Foreman was 6'3 pounds as a teenager.
You think he couldn't just add weight and come in heavyweight? Ali weighed as much as in his career but he choose to come in light. Larry Holmes choose to come in light because he was a guy who used the ring. Lol you act like all of these guys couldn't just come in to the ring 40 pounds overweight. Being fat and being big are 2 different things. Foreman was a big guy. Tyson Fury is a fat guy. You also will have nothing to say about Leroy Jones being 6'5 and between You won't mention Al Jones being 6'6 and because it proves how dead wrong you are.
There have been so many changes to their listed heights by the years. Sonny was always listed 6ft0. What do you believe was the truth about those too great boxers? Frazier - the time I seen him - wasn't much taller than myself, but then he could look 5ft 10 range peak.
Dunno about Elvis tho. I am one that doesnt think Eastwood was over 6'3, i'm sure you have seen this on the Eastwood page. Dream 5'9. However, Ali also stated that Eastwood is taller than him.
Didn't think so lol. Ali at 6'4 is a total Joke, the man was very talented, no reason to give him 2" extra in height. I love crushing cans on this site. As Far As Joshua's actually Maybe 6'5. I really hope they fight in He looks a solid cm. See the difference. Again, Not HarrySachs, but everyone else.
Keep in mind this has nothing to do with Boxing skill. This is size relative to the heavyweight division. Guys like Joe Frazier has 10 times the heart that the Modern boxers Also Looking up their Opponents is not hard either. Not HarrySachs, I mean the rest of the normal People? Wladimir at was for most of his prime Career. Provide that link and tell me he fought most of his fights at that weight and you deserve a slap. Boxing Rec has all of the main fights and has weights recorded for it.
If you think Wlad was lbs during his peak than I need not say more, you just exposed your own ignorance. It is an undeniable fact that Heavyweight boxers are bigger now than ever before. Again I will say it, Ron Lyle and George foreman were considered " Big " Heavyweights in the 70's at 6'3 and pounds When they fought.
Muhammed Ali at 6'2. Google is a great thing, unless you are HarrySachs. Ernie Terrell The tallest opponent Ali Ever fought was 6'6 and was pounds Wilder is a thinner Heavyweight at , and still would bully Ernie around the ring. C'mon now. Joshua- 6'5 , Wilder 6'6. Heavyweights are bigger and taller on average. The average HVT is like pounds today. Just because some boxers were taller that does mean they were not smaller in general.
It is known for Heavweights to carry body fat. Heavyweights are mostly taller today by a long way. Wladimir listed as pounds? Wladimir was defo taller in his 20s he was clearly a lot bigger than that. Watch his early pro fights to see how mich bigger than oppenents he was even at years old. In the last 20 years we have had Vitali,Wladimir,Lewis,Fury,Wilder,Joshua who are all very big and athletic and take their careers very seriously.
Foreman was listed at 6'3 and as a 19 year older. Wladmir Klistchko for example was listed at 6'5 and in his early 20's. Foreman lost weight earlier in his career because fighters back then took their boxing career seriously.
You didn't see many fat heavyweights back then like you do now. I also can name 50 heavyweight contenders in just the 70's alone who were between 6'3 and 6'6. That's not serious most of the time also I think Ali was in the 6'1 range, maybe but nothing more.
Clint is noticeably taller than the Greatest who at 6mins 30 onwards actually describes himself as being 6 feet 2 in height. THERE are a few things professional boxers might tell you about themselves that should have you reaching for the salt cellar.
A boxer who tells you he gets stronger as the fight goes on is always talking through his rear end it is physiologically impossible: in reality, what might happen, is that his opponent is getting weaker, quicker. Basically, never believe the height stats for any boxer, including those cited in the current Bible of boxing statistics, BoxRec www. In short so to speak most boxers and their managers, promoters, trainers and publicists tend to exaggerate the height of their charges — invariably by a fraction of an inch, frequently by a full-inch and sometimes by several.
Exhibit number one is the magnificent Bernard Hopkins , who, according to BoxRec and everyone else is 6ft 1ins. I first queried this privately nearly 10 years back when he fought Howard Eastman. The problem was that Eastman was listed as 5ft 11ins but in all their head-to-heads, and in the ring, he appeared to be exactly the same height as Hopkins.
I concluded at the time that perhaps Eastman was taller than advertised. Then in Bernard fought Chad Dawson , who was listed as 6ft 1ins — but he was clearly more than an inch taller than Hopkins.
So what is the truth? A more recent example comes from the Nathan Cleverly-Tony Bellew fight. But when they went nose-to-nose it was clear that if indeed Bellew was ever-so-slightly the taller man, it was by no more than half an inch. In other words, my guess is that Bellew is closer to 6ft 2ins, than 6ft 3ins. Which brings us to another supposedly 6ft 3ins boxer, David Haye. BoxRec lists Haye at this height, and when I asked David, he too claimed to be 6ft 3ins.
George was evidently more than an inch taller than David. So how tall is David Haye? My guess is 6ft 2ins, maximum. Going down the weights there are some even more absurd examples. His real height?
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